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04-14-2014, 09:22 AM
What happened to the Crazy Legs thread that was here yesterday? It had a few comments. Was curious to see other's reactions to the fiasco at the convention of running out early and missing accessories.

04-14-2014, 02:17 PM
Not sure, but fiasco was right. I'm not sure how to fix it, but there were people acting crazy at the drop, bumping into folks. One guy in the elevator had five! Some little girl ran up to her dad with a $100 in her hand saying she sold hers for that much. Then the store sold out within maybe 25 minutes of opening on Friday? It would be awesome if the Club offered up the figure at the Club store. I know it is a convention exclusive but unless i wanted to get physical I had little opportunity to get one.

04-14-2014, 03:40 PM
It really sucked that it was a piece that went to a certain set.That was one just one thing, but when a 9yr old kid gets to grab 13 of them and tells people they're for his dad to sell on ebay and not give any away is wrong. At this point I don't think the drop should even happen anymore, or if someone really wants what is being dropped, they should "rent" a kid to grab as much as he/she can.

04-14-2014, 04:53 PM
It's sad how people acted I understand the craziness but no need to want one to profit but to get one for your collection. One of the info both guys chatted with me about how people just do it for profit and not for the love of collecting. He was 100% right

04-16-2014, 07:43 AM
I certainly understand the frustration from folks, but in looking at the examples above, is it the Club's fault that someone grabbed over a dozen figures to sell? The parachute drop has always been a part of the fun, and granted, it's tough to police, but I think the chaos adds to the charm.

Brian said at the panel that none of the parachute figures had sold out before or created that much demand (I would disagree somewhat...the Air Viper from 2003 certainly did) but he also mentioned that there was a (slight) possibility that they may have missed a box when they brought the figures to the Convention.

We'll have to see what comes of it.

04-16-2014, 10:11 AM
I spoke with one of the info booth guys (I believe it was Dave) and had a good discussion with him about the situation. My recommendation was to offer a remake of the figure without the parachute (like the Hasbro produced red and gray version) and offer it to attending members at a significant discount and to non attending members at a higher price point. This would be a nod of appreciation to those of us that attended. Possibly a carded and or bagged version.

He also stated that there were no more "foil/Mylar" parachutes and no more "cloth/fabric" parachute material that Hasbro used at retail. So the future of actual parachute drops may indeed be no more unless Hasbro/club foots the bill to purchase a bulk buy of material to make new chutes with.

In a side note he stated that they were almost out of 12" figure bodies too. So this may be the end of 12" figures for our 1/6 scale collectors (I'm one of the weird ones that collect both)

I hope the club can develop a way to make it right for us who waited hours in line to no avail. I know we snagged a figure that hit the 7th floor and handed off to a kid. (We thought was the right thing to do) Since I was going to purchase one later from the club. I am not a profiteer, and collect for the sake of collecting. I don't have a grudge against one who is a capitalist, but in cases like this it is a bitter pill to swallow.

I hope the club can find a way to make this right for all parties involved.

04-16-2014, 12:19 PM
This was some major FUBAR by the club, but I understand how things got mixed up. To begin with, this was a 2013 para-drop figure based on the labeling on the bag that I have seen and was an add-on to this year's con, or a replacement to who knows what (Kre-O or another para-drop figure). There were assumed to be 1,000 figures based on the poster out in the lobby (but not printed on the order form). These first two decisions made this a plan doomed to failure.

GTs got first dibs at 3x everyone else...which should have never happened. Someone should have confirmed counts immediately before and after the drop. If there were not going to be enough for every badge holder, GTs should have been limited to 1 per. Maybe they should have thrown less during the para-drop as well - instead of 300, maybe only 100. I know they had more volunteers tossing than before. My wife was in the lower level and was asked to go to the 1st floor with everyone else. After the drop happened, many fell through to that floor and I know I saw several landed on the escalator.

I wasn't able to secure a NF Crazy Legs figure after standing in line. Yes, it was disappointing but I understood mistakes happen. I did witness several people upset and addressing Club staff at the store once in the showroom floor. I'm hoping the Club does find that "other box" and gives con goers first dibs, although that will be difficult to prevent someone from double or triple-dipping. It would be nice to start a club "lottery" for those who want a Crazy Legs, as they did with the Nocturnal Fire and SDCC sets in the past.

I, like many who attended, hope to complete my Night Force set with this figure, but am not willing to pay the $100+ price tag it is currently demanded by scalpers. I hope the Club learns from this error and prevents it from happening again at future cons. I love the para-drop event, and I think the kids look forward to it (as well as the adults who hope to snag one!).

All club members who are badge holders at the convention should be able to get, at minimum, 1 of every convention exclusive item. That is why we go to the convention.

04-16-2014, 12:53 PM
Yes, If they do find the "missing box" of figures all of us in line should have first dibs. I would presume all the GT folks got their fill, so they should probably not be included in this rationing of figures. (not trying to step on toes of GT folks, so don't take it that way) But as Davestro stated it would be difficult to perform this task even though they have record of who did attend.

I played bingo with a guy who stated they were in the front of the non GT attendees and he stated that none of the non GT guys had a chance to purchase a bagged figure. So the only guys that got one was GT folks and guys that got ones that were dropped (according to the guy I sat next to, and the name slips me).

I do hope they do something to reconcile this issue with us. Yes it is why we go when we are able. Not the only reason but a large portion of it.

04-16-2014, 03:03 PM
iT would not be difficult at all for the american hero in general ticket holdersto be notified and afforded the opportunity to purchase a crazy leg if a so-called possible missing box or boxes do show up. Certainly the American Hero in general ticket holders who were not golden tickets should be afforded first crack at those but odds are that will not be the case and there's no missing box to be found

04-16-2014, 03:32 PM
I think the Club should have a reissue of this figure. It is a figure that was highly demanded prior to the Con and fills a hole in most collections. I for one have the un filled space for it, but it just does not make any sense to pay $150+ for it. I think it makes business sense as well as catering to the Club's members to produce another batch (maybe carded) and offer it through the Club store. They have done this in the past so there is precedent with a highly demanded figure like NF Crazylegs. Maybe they should take pre-orders prior to production. And they can make a slight change as to differentiate from the parachute drop figure.

04-16-2014, 04:13 PM
Yes, looking at the figure (in photos) he looks too good not to have in one's collection :)

I will have to try to pick one up :)

04-16-2014, 06:48 PM
I think the FSS model for a reissue of the figure would be a great idea-- the Club could take preorders to be sure the funding was there & they don't get stuck with extra inventory. If there are no more 'chutes they could skip that part-- unfortunate, but it seems solvable for creative fans (dollar stores still sell those solid plastic generic figures with plastic parachutes; might be adaptable to a Joe figure)... or maybe the reissue could feature extra accessories, like an Airborne-style sculpted-chute backpack done in Night Force black? That might even get some folks who already scored a Crazylegs to preorder another one from the second release.

04-17-2014, 07:38 AM
I like the idea of a re-issue via the Club Store. American Hero badge holders get first crack then it opens up to the masses after that.

No card, just bagged like the one sold at Con. I would love for him to include a black version of the parachute that came with Retaliation Flint. This figure completes many collector's Night Force team, so it is essential. We shall see what the Club plans.

04-17-2014, 09:53 AM
We can only hope the club makes good on this. I think the club knows it was a FUBAR situation and I think they will try to look at some way to make good on their bad situation. If they don't then WE need to be very vocal and press the issue until something does happen. The club like Hasbro only exists because they have us behind them. Unlike Hasbro though I think the club listens and does good work! Keep up the good work club, and I trust you will come through for us!

04-17-2014, 01:59 PM
I did have a messed up figure (boxed set) that they replaced immediately and one that I broke (don't ask) that they replaced when it was my own fault, so I still have some faith that given the opportunity the Club will do the right thing.

04-17-2014, 02:06 PM
I have a lab rat thst is missing his visor and gogglat that is missing his visor and goggles and unfortunately I discovered it saturday after I got home from the dinner and was leaving Sunday morning before I could exchange it for 1 that wasn't defective. When I got home I sent an email to the club and called and left a message and have had no reply to either as to whether or not I could exchange the defective lab rat for one that's not defective at my expense paying postage on both ends

04-17-2014, 05:56 PM
I wish the club would make an announcement about this figure, I truly hope they "find" the missing box(es).

04-17-2014, 06:46 PM
like I said earlier I don't think there's a missing box and nobody confirmed the count so there were hundreds less than they thought

04-17-2014, 08:21 PM
I know GT holders that were turned away.

If there is some miracle boxes of the figures those GT holder should have the first rights to get what they paid for, then after that normal Con ticket holders, and theeeen if there's any left onward to the Club store to sell out.

All this is in accordance to the Club actually keeping track of people buy what they're "allowed" at the Con.

04-17-2014, 09:34 PM
You are wrong so very wrong golden ticket holders get so much that if a box of crazy leg does show up no golden ticket holder should be first in line. American hero and general ticket holders should be the ones that get first crack at them and no 1 else, that is if there is any equity in how convention exclusives are distributed. to allow any golden ticket holder and opportunity at Crazy Legs would be an insult to all the American hero in general ticket holders who stood in line for hours only to get turned away while golden ticket holders and the majority of them obtained 3 Crazy Legs figures. But again I believe there is no missing box and there was just a miscount which should have resulted then a limit of one per person including the golden ticket holders. This fiasco is not something that can be pushed off onto programmers are any body else it is strictly the failure of management and those in control how to properly know what their inventories were

04-17-2014, 10:19 PM
I don't know what you're going on about, but generally the GT holders seem to get a good crack at things before others do.. And some were turned away after NF CL ran out early. I think you're a little scrambled when you say "a majority of them" as it was passed around that dealers gorged themselves first among everything, then GT went and well.. no more Crazy Legs.

You seem to feel entitled to something just because you or someone you know went and were not GT holders, and I wasn't a GT holder either, but GT holder pay more to get first dibs.. Money talks.

04-17-2014, 11:06 PM
What happened to the Crazy Legs thread that was here yesterday? It had a few comments. Was curious to see other's reactions to the fiasco at the convention of running out early and missing accessories.

At least one of the mods around here is SUPER quick to delete a thread that is anything but glowing. I'm surprised this one is still up. I would like to start a thread about it, but it'll probably get deleted.

Now for everyone else. I hate to sound like a jerk but, when have you ever gone to a JoeCon and not had the Club do something that disappointed you? I've been a member for 4 JoeCons. Never had enough money to go. And every year all I hear is people complaining about how things were hard to get. If it wasn't this it would have been something else. Not that I'm trying to be an apologist. I'm constantly seeing the Club do stuff that just makes zero sense to me. Simple stuff that seems like it would be logical to do almost any other way than how they do it. But everyone keeps their membership going and shows up again for more disappointment. You have to remember, this isn't so much a "club" as it is a business. You keep giving them money, they'll keep doing what they're doing.

04-17-2014, 11:16 PM
and with Hasbro not even showing up it appears there's no one for them to answer to not even the club members

04-17-2014, 11:19 PM
you were talking to me you don't know anything and are not in full possession of the facts because I did get Crazy Legs and so did the person I went with and we had golden ticket and regular tickets but just because one pays a few more dollars doesnt make them any more important which evidently is something you won't agree with but that's okay

04-17-2014, 11:21 PM
And as an FYI, I am the one who started the post that was deleted which you're making reference to

04-18-2014, 12:10 PM
I can see why your post was deleted. You provide nothing constructive to the topic; only entitlement issues, hard to read posts, and whining.

GT holders pay more to get in line first, plain and simple. There are GT holders that left without getting the chance to buy NF CL. As it stands you are wrong.. Someone paying an extra $300 bucks does make them more important than someone that doesn't purchase the GT.. THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE GOLDEN TICKET. First serve AND 3 of each.

It appears you're not going to "get it", so I'm done trying to discuss things with you. Have a nice day.

04-18-2014, 02:04 PM
so from your viewpoint if they found 100 FIGS Golden Ticket Holders should still get them all and the 200 to 300 regular ticket holders who were left standing in line should get nothing? Not even something like a lottery? I'm just thinking of the majorityat this point not who paid what

04-18-2014, 02:49 PM
Everyone who attends the Con should have a chance to buy 1 of each item. I appreciate that the Golden Tix contribute extra to the Con; that's good. However, the extra money they pay is still less than the base amount each person pays to join & attend. Nobody should be completely shut out of anything to give others extra privilege unless the extra privilege folks are prepared to foot the entire bill. This is especially true when the total number of GTs is limited; even people willing to pay the extra weren't necessarily able to.
Besides, it sounds like some of the GT holders weren't able to get Crazylegs either. The best way to be sure that they & everyone else have a chance to collect one is to do a second run (probably by preorder). That way everyone wins.

04-18-2014, 03:35 PM
Loot, you said it very well. Do a second run by pre ordering.

04-18-2014, 09:17 PM
Counts should have been assessed at the Con prior to the drop and the Club Store opening. If it was determined that fewer Crazy Legs were in stock, then quantities should have been limited to dealers, GTs, etc.

I agree that all badge holders should get at least one of every exclusive. Many attend the conference not only for the experience and to see old friends, but for the convention exclusives as well. When exclusives cannot be guaranteed with attendance, then some might not want to make the trek.

04-22-2014, 09:13 AM
Update: No other figures were found at the warehouse.

The Staff at the convention had ALL the accessories that were returned from the parachute drop. It was not possible to police people that kept the parts from the drop or took extras from the booth.

The possibility of making more Crazy Legs is something we are looking into. However, we can’t comment on future figures until they are announced.