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Commander_Lane
04-10-2018, 11:30 AM
Order Now (https://www.mastercollector.com/fss/login.cfm?eid=1000001)... from the 2018 Figure Subscription Service 8.0 website!

Our GIJCC Figure Subscription Service 8.0 is an optional separate purchase if you are an active member of the G.I. Joe Collectors' Club. You can subscribe now through the May 2nd, 2018 deadline!

We are very excited to offer the eighth and final limited edition GIJCC FSS (Figure Subscription Service). This assortment contains a variety of club member requested characters from all eras of the 3 3/4-inch G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero series. It includes classic 80's, 90's, 2000's, international, and many never previously released characters to add to your modern era action figure collection. Upon successful completion, you will also receive a BONUS mystery 13th carded action figure with the last shipment.

Each single carded action figure features the highly articulated modern era sculpts with weapons and accessories for them to accomplish any mission!


http://www.gijoeclub.com/images/2018/FSS8fastdrawWEB.jpg
G.I. JOE MOBILE MISSILE SPECIALIST
Code Name: FAST DRAW
(Inspired by the 1987 action figure.)
Includes: removable helmet, face mask, revolver pistol,
backpack missile system with 8 projectiles, remote controls x 2,
connection hoses x 2, and figure stand.


NOTE: These modern era club exclusive action figures will not be exact replicas of their vintage counterparts. All images are Photoshop mock-up representations, final product, accessories and/or colors will vary!

gjwermund@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 11:34 AM
Wow this looks great. Another great reveal

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-10-2018, 11:35 AM
Can you add a shot of the revolver?

lindy101_98@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 12:09 PM
A little disappointed, yet pleasantly surprised. I was wanting that vintage body style/look, yet the more I look at it, the more I can't believe I like it!!

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-10-2018, 12:32 PM
Kind of expected some of the build, but I'm really starting to appreciate him the more I look at it. I don't recognize the upper right leg. Thought it was from roc Skydive/50th night viper but it's not.

csi_kincaid@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 12:35 PM
Wow! Very nice build using existing parts. Again, I'd like to see the head under the helmet, but, this is fantastic.

skoor.cr@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 01:07 PM
Love this look. He's pretty much how I pictured him, I might have used the Sandstorm helmet but this works also

arock1922@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 01:30 PM
Any chance of painting the codpiece underneath the belt the same grey color as the rest of his armor?

Other than that, it’s a great build!

kaljzl0824@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 01:40 PM
Waaaaay to much Blowtorch here. The rest and the colors are fine. But the Blowtorch helmet and mask dies not work. Steel Brigade helmet woulda fit the bill perfectly.

axonrey@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 02:33 PM
having no affinity for the character, i think he looks sharp.

rent1374@hotmail.com
04-10-2018, 03:02 PM
Great work! Love it!

lindy101_98@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 03:17 PM
Yep. Still liking it!!

csi_kincaid@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 03:41 PM
While I agree that there is a lot of Blowtorch here, at least it's not the accelerator suit that I had honestly thought it would be.

julestobin@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 03:51 PM
There's room in my mind for a different style figure as well... But I trust its impossible to Top this Exclusive! Been a long time since FASTDRAW has been seen.

jimsnow70@aol.com
04-10-2018, 05:57 PM
Can we use the Steel Brigade helmet instead of the Blowtorch one? It looks more like the original:

ATBotts78@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 06:03 PM
I agree, Steel Brigade helmet painted red, much better

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-10-2018, 06:10 PM
The SB helmet really gives it more of a poc feel. Just paint the visor silver and paint the cod piece to match the armor, bang, poc fast draw.

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-10-2018, 06:40 PM
The problem with the Steel Brigade helmet is its not removable. Let's at least look at the face and head under the helmet before we replace them with a red SB. Also, show the revolver.

c.j.lloyd1@juno.com
04-10-2018, 06:48 PM
I like the Steel Brigade Helmet. Definitely with silver visor and some blue web gear. Love the color the club chose. Matches the ARAH deco very nicely.

tommyboy_iceman@msn.com
04-10-2018, 07:01 PM
The removable steel brigade helmet would work great unless you had a removable M.A.R.S. IRON ANVIL helmet. Still would like to have some type of breathing hose. I hope there will be hoses to attach the controllers to the rocket launcher. Also, it feels like the launcher pods are a bit too forward. Maybe move them back on the backpack a little bit? Just seems like he would tip over if they were perpendicular to (or close to) the ground. Would also rather see some type of chest armor than the blowtorch torso too. The leg armor is nice.

lindy101_98@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 07:03 PM
Sorry guys, but I say leave it alone. I was always a huge Fast Draw fan. The original cardback art with the missile system and two missiles strapped to his back. That was AWESOME!!! I'll say it one more time as I did earlier. The more I look at it, the more I like it!!

ctaylor66@hotmail.com
04-10-2018, 09:14 PM
The SB helmet really gives it more of a poc feel. Just paint the visor silver and paint the cod piece to match the armor, bang, poc fast draw.

I totally agree!!! The SB helmet is wide like the vintage FD helmet, and it doesn't look like an SB helmet in that color. This would be a welcome change that hopefully would be able to be done.


The problem with the Steel Brigade helmet is its not removable. Let's at least look at the face and head under the helmet before we replace them with a red SB. Also, show the revolver.

The SB helmet is removable. Remember, it was one of the accessories of the ROC Pit trooper.

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 09:22 PM
Well, I kind of like this one, but not as much as I was hoping for. I will admit Fast Draw is a pretty tough build with existing parts and no new pieces. I don't think anything they could do would ever be perfect, but when I look at it, I just see Blowtorch with a missile backpack. That facemask and chest protector are just too recognizable.

The Steel Brigade helmet with a silver visor would be an improvement I think. It wouldn't have the breathing hose, but was that tiny hose connecting to the mask really one of the most significant parts of the vintage figure? I think I would give that up to make him not look like Blowtorch.

I was also hoping for a different torso. There are a number of torsos with an armor piece built in (such as the POC Duke figure that rocket launcher is from) that would allow for a webgear/harness to be used over the armor like the original.

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-10-2018, 09:49 PM
I honestly like this build. It's got an updated look with a classic feel to the character. The blowtorch helmet and chest piece work even though they're so iconic to blowtorch but the SB helmet would make him less identifiable to blowtorch.

Unless you went with the Heavy Duty armored torso, any other torso would look too scrawny with the arms and legs chosen, so web gear would be too tight. Personally I don't miss the web gear and I love the bulkiness to him, finally a figure to take on the armored IGs.

cyriljackal@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 09:54 PM
He must must must have the POC firefly vtol driver helmet. This blowtorch one simply wont work.

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-10-2018, 10:08 PM
If it's removable then, yeah, there's no reason not to use it. I thought that figure had a molded helmet head. My bad.

cyriljackal@yahoo.com
04-10-2018, 10:10 PM
POC Skydive helmet is really good and futuristic looking too.

ChadExcitement@aol.com
04-10-2018, 10:44 PM
IF Blowtorch were to be used, I would have preferred the bottom half as opposed to the top half. I absolutely hate the Blowtorch helmet and mask as they do not hold together very well. Whatever the rest of you feel is better for the head, I'm on board.


Well, I kind of like this one, but not as much as I was hoping for. I will admit Fast Draw is a pretty tough build with existing parts and no new pieces. I don't think anything they could do would ever be perfect, but when I look at it, I just see Blowtorch with a missile backpack. That facemask and chest protector are just too recognizable.

The Steel Brigade helmet with a silver visor would be an improvement I think. It wouldn't have the breathing hose, but was that tiny hose connecting to the mask really one of the most significant parts of the vintage figure? I think I would give that up to make him not look like Blowtorch.

I was also hoping for a different torso. There are a number of torsos with an armor piece built in (such as the POC Duke figure that rocket launcher is from) that would allow for a webgear/harness to be used over the armor like the original.

I couldn't agree more. Seems any easy winner would be the Duke POC torso and waist and the Steel Brigade helmet. Again, I'd be fine with Blowtorch legs or what is shown. This build could be better. Please club, make this figure different than a Blowtorch remake.

magick1313@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 11:15 PM
I think due to the amount of Blowtorch we got from Hasbro, that this figure has too many of his parts.

I would have preferred a little better build for a premium figure.

Like using a ROC Reactive armor body or Accelerator suit. The accelerator suit helmet would even work as a newer version of a liftable visor.

gpgreenoe@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 11:21 PM
I’m a BIG fan of Fast Draw. He was (and still is) one of my favorite figure designs. When I read he was going to be in FSS8 I cringed at the possibility that the easiest yet least effective helmet to use would be Blowtorch. I hoped that a new helmet would be tooled as Fast Draw’s is pretty iconic. As it turns out the new tooling sadly went to Gridiron and Recoil. The bulk of the figure, save torso and head, are actually really well done and thought out for a modern Fast Draw. However the use of the Blowtorch helmet and torso end up making him look like just another Blowtorch. If there is any way possibly to either retool the original helmet (a VERY long shot) or use an alternate I would be psyched. Steel Brigade Delta, Steel Brigade, or the Sub Viper helmet would all be great choices. Please consider a change!

skoor.cr@gmail.com
04-10-2018, 11:32 PM
Ok after looking at the steel brigade helmet and pictures of the original Fast Draw , the helmet change to the SB helmet is the perfect change. Plus if you look at the original artwork, there was no hose. And on the figure itself the hose conected to the backpack. I personally can do without the hose and have theclub change the helmet and I'd be ecstatic. Please change the helmet.

davide.romanello@gmail.com
04-11-2018, 12:49 AM
I have to add my voice on others: SB helmet, and blue web gear instead Blowtorch part, should give to Fast Drew a better look.

sheila4420@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 02:28 AM
That's just a GREAT looking figure.

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-11-2018, 07:38 AM
You guys that want a skinnier build do realise that the arms and legs chosen will not work with the smaller torsos, right? Joe parts don't all seamlessly work together. Maybe the heavy duty reactive armor might work, but web gear won't fit on it. I think we're getting the best possible build with the parts that work together without modding. The only possible change could be the SB helmet, but if the art work is already done then that can be forgotten as well. Just leave it, it's a good build.

lindy101_98@yahoo.com
04-11-2018, 07:58 AM
I hate to keep kicking a dead horse, yet I need to say again, it's not the best build, yet it works for me. And about the Blowtorch helmet, when I saw the colors and how close everything is to the original, Blowtorch didn't even pop in my head. I WANT more of the original look, yet I CAN LIVE WITH how it is now. I'm adding Fast Draw to my collection!!! That's the way I'm looking at this!!

leo@joebattlelines.com
04-11-2018, 08:42 AM
There's more to this build than just a straight repaint of Blowtorch. It's just the helmet and torso armor that are the most obvious reuses. The rest of the parts are all taken from other figures.

I'm digging it. Fast Draw had a whopping ONE figure in the ARAH line. This keeps the feel, modernizes the design, and still uses existing parts. There's no way that we'd get a ton of newly-tooled pieces for this figure in the Club's final year and I think that their designer(s) did a fine job on this one.

Also-- rather than the Steel Brigade helmet-- why not consider the 25th Wild Weasel helmet?

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30581337_10216427559820498_6291176908712888568_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=db330d33c62c674b1008006923f2277a&oe=5B681C97

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 08:44 AM
The Steel Brigade helmet looks about a million times better and, yes, we don't need another Blowtorch since Hasbro gave us 18 of him. Just use the SB helmet. It's not a big change considering it's just swapping out one removable helmet for another. Just do it so we don't have a 15th Blowtorch.

gpgreenoe@gmail.com
04-11-2018, 08:47 AM
I guess the thing is, for me, the hose for Fast Draw was a small thin one, wired from the side of his visor to the missile launcher used for the purpose of targeting for the missile launchers. Blowtorch’s helmet/hose combo is set up as a large hose, connecting to a gask mask like breathing apparatus which then connects to his chest, and I guess that’s just something I can’t look past. I get that it’s a helmet with a visor and a hose that seems to check all the boxes, but conceptually it absolutely doesn’t work.

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 09:01 AM
Exactly! And would it honestly matter if it didn't have a communication wire or hose? Since wireless technology has advanced so much since 1989? If the hand controls can be remote control now, there's no reason the communications system in the helmet couldn't be, too. Heck, there are radio communication systems in NFL quarterbacks' helmets now.

slipknotx540@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 10:57 AM
Too much blowtorch. Please change helmet to steel brigade and chest to something with a blue harness and maybe a bit of gray paint

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 10:59 AM
Also-- rather than the Steel Brigade helmet-- why not consider the 25th Wild Weasel helmet?


There's a head under there. It has to be a removable helmet not just removable sunglasses.

ChadExcitement@aol.com
04-11-2018, 11:01 AM
The more I look at it and the more I read the other posts, I think a head change to the Steel Brigade helmet would do the trick. I think that's an easy fix that everyone would be okay with. My biggest problem with the Blowtorch helmet and mask is that they don't fit together very well. The SB head change would make this figure much more unique. The rest of the figure is a good build.

russthecobra@gmail.com
04-11-2018, 12:42 PM
I agree with the helmet change. Steel Brigade would be good or Another Helmet that is also close is the Nitro viper helmet that was just made but instead of a clear visor it can be made to look like Fast draws. Then the visor would still mimic the version 1 helmet while also using an already fabricated mold

dgmgundam@yahoo.com
04-11-2018, 12:56 PM
To those of you who prefer the Steel Brigade helmet over the Blowtorch helmet, have you considered the Steel Brigade Delta helmet instead? Personally, I prefer the Delta helmet.

skoor.cr@gmail.com
04-11-2018, 01:03 PM
Either one of theese helmets are an improvement over the Blowtorch helmet.

jagermonster72@sky.com
04-11-2018, 01:06 PM
I agree , change the helmet and web gear please !!!!! it's too much like blowtorch at the moment , the webgear that is supplied on the dollar general cobra troopers in blue would look great , along with either the steel brigade helmet , the steel brigade delta helmet, the roc firefly helmet or the resolute duke/maverick helmet , any of those 4 with a webgear change would look so much better , oh and please lose the red tips on the projectiles , it doesn't look good , solid white like the originals would look much better.

in fact , an even better selection of a helmet change would be the Matt trakker helmet , in red with silver visor and breather vent , it would look like a good modern update.

lindy101_98@yahoo.com
04-11-2018, 02:17 PM
I'm not seeing or understanding the love for a different helmet. Wild Weasel is to boxed looking and steel brigade looks like a voice changer. Personally (again) NO CHANGES NEEDED!!

almonellis@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 02:28 PM
Add me to the list who think another helmet is needed. The Blowtorch one is just too iconic to that character. I'd say a change to the Accelerator Suit/Barricade helmet or the Steel Brigade Delta helmet would be the best choices. With that change, this would be a really cool figure!

rjhiii@sover.net
04-11-2018, 03:04 PM
Wild Weasel is also not a removable helmet ... And I think it is too late in the process to make changes. However, my thoughts
painting the crotch gray will make the figure look strange without the vest piece and the rest of the figure being in green. I would rather them use the 2009 ROC Flash Vest and helmet, painting the helmet red and goggles silver

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 03:10 PM
The Blowtorch one has a completely unnecessary air hose. With the chestpiece it looks too much like another blowtorch. It just has to go. Wild Weasel is not removable so Steel Brigade or SB Delta will both do. Just get rid of the overused Blowtorch helmet/facemask combo. This character is not a flamethrower or firefighter character.

almonellis@hotmail.com
04-11-2018, 03:48 PM
One other suggestion would be to use the Retaliation Roadblock

huntersabin@yahoo.com
04-11-2018, 05:20 PM
Love the line up, Club! However, Fast Draw is such an iconic character. Please try and change out the helmet at least? Otherwise, thanks for everything over the years!

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-11-2018, 05:37 PM
I decided to see if the parts changes a lot of you suggested were possible and here's what I found.
- The web gear change to cobra officer web gear or Retaliation cobra trooper will not work on this torso. They will not work on the accelerator suit torso or the heavy duty reactive torso either.
- The helmet change is dependant of the head used. If it's BT's head under the helmet, then the SB and SB delta helmets will not fit.
- The reactive armor torsos, other than HD, does accommodate the above mentioned web gear, but the arms used will not fit the torso.

So basically, even the helmet change would require a different head, and all other suggestions would have to be a complete back to the drawing board rebuild.

troysheets2001@yahoo.com
04-11-2018, 05:47 PM
I see no problem with the build as is.

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
04-11-2018, 08:42 PM
I'm not seeing or understanding the love for a different helmet. Wild Weasel is to boxed looking and steel brigade looks like a voice changer. Personally (again) NO CHANGES NEEDED!!

We all have different opinions and I'm glad you like it, but how do you not understand why other people don't like it? It's not like everyone just says "it stinks, change it". There have literally been over a dozen posts telling you why we want a different helmet. We don't want it to look like Blowtorch! I know not everyone agrees and that's fine, but if you read the comments you can understand where other people are coming from.

It's probably too late to make major changes anyway, and fans are batting like 2 for 50 on getting the club to change parts after the reveals, so it's gonna stay the same. We might as well speed up the reveal process and give people something else to talk about.

ChadExcitement@aol.com
04-11-2018, 09:03 PM
To those of you who prefer the Steel Brigade helmet over the Blowtorch helmet, have you considered the Steel Brigade Delta helmet instead? Personally, I prefer the Delta helmet.

I was unaware of the Delta helmet. I like it! I've been identifying the Blowtorch face mask and helmet with him since '84. I actually purchased Fast Draw over Croc Master in '87 (not sure why today) as they were both kind of tough to obtain. To me Fast Draw and Payload are the last Joe figures from 1987 that were necessary and I'm thrilled that we are getting them thanks to the club. I just think Fast Draw should look more like his own character.

jrgrfg@aol.com
04-11-2018, 09:08 PM
I also think the removable Steel Brigade helmet in red with the painted silver visor would give it a more FD look and less BT. Otherwise I like the rest of the figure, the colors look great, the body and legs look good too. Hope the Club can accommodate the helmet change. Regardless, super excited about this FSS.

skoor.cr@gmail.com
04-11-2018, 09:38 PM
I decided to see if the parts changes a lot of you suggested were possible and here's what I found.
- The web gear change to cobra officer web gear or Retaliation cobra trooper will not work on this torso. They will not work on the accelerator suit torso or the heavy duty reactive torso either.
- The helmet change is dependant of the head used. If it's BT's head under the helmet, then the SB and SB delta helmets will not fit.
- The reactive armor torsos, other than HD, does accommodate the above mentioned web gear, but the arms used will not fit the torso.

So basically, even the helmet change would require a different head, and all other suggestions would have to be a complete back to the drawing board rebuild.

I know it's not ideal but you could use the 50th Gen Hawk with the steel brigade helmet. Not sure if it will work with the Blowtorch or any of the other suggested torsos, but it will work withthe helmet

ozcouple@live.com
04-11-2018, 11:04 PM
Too much blowtorch. Please change helmet to steel brigade and chest to something with a blue harness and maybe a bit of gray paint

I'd prefer this, yes.

c.j.lloyd1@juno.com
04-12-2018, 04:31 AM
Honestly, Fast Draw is not horrible. The color scheme looks great. We are not in the same situation as with Salvo given that The Club very likely does not have time for a design change. Here is a suggestion:
What about having 2 additional helmets produced in the same color red (Steel Brigade & Resolute Duke Helmets) - make those 2 helmets available as an add-on in the Club Store ($10-15 would be acceptable)
The additional heads are easy to come by.

lindy101_98@yahoo.com
04-12-2018, 07:41 AM
It's not about others opinion as much as it is about the different helmet choice. Most say a helmet change, and I get that. My previous posts have said "not perfect, but it works". My thing is why the steel brigade helmet? When I look at the SB helmet, all I see is steel brigade. So everybody who wants a change would rather have a steel brigade missle specialist? The points I'm trying to make are these ( and the ARAH collectors will get this ):
1. It's got the red helmet with silver visor that looks closer to the original dome helmet.
2. It's got the blue hose (that might be insignificant to some) that is not perfectly sized, but is there to give it that original vibe.
3. The SB helmet looks like a Kylo Ren Voice Changer mask.
Anyways, I'm still voicing to keep it based on the points above. The poc and modern edition fans and such won't get it, but that's ok. As you said, everyone has their own opinion!!

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-12-2018, 08:39 AM
It's got the blue hose (that might be insignificant to some) that is not perfectly sized, but is there to give it that original vibe.

The original figure did not have a breathing hose like firefighters wear stuck into its chest. If you don't like Steel Brigade helmet then there's always the SB Delta helmet.

rjhiii@sover.net
04-12-2018, 08:48 AM
If you don't like Steel Brigade helmet then there's always the SB Delta helmet.
I still would like someone with customizing and Photo Shop skills to try the ROC Flash gear as an alternative. If the chest piece and skirt piece work with the build, then it might be a better solution with that figure's helmet as well. The chest piece could be all gray with blue highlights/accents, the helmet could be repainted red with a paint applied in silver to the visor/goggles

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-12-2018, 09:06 AM
I know it's not ideal but you could use the 50th Gen Hawk with the steel brigade helmet. Not sure if it will work with the Blowtorch or any of the other suggested torsos, but it will work withthe helmet

I was actually going to suggest this but thought I'd get yelled at, lol.

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-12-2018, 09:17 AM
I just assumed it may be BT because the helmet fits properly with that head, it's not something I'd prefer. So, if it is, then the SB won't fit on it and would require a different head, like 50th hawk or SB just to name two. The Delta helmet requires an even smaller head, so maybe 25th wild bill head might fit, not sure, I never checked.

I'm not trying to knock any of the suggestions, I'm just trying to see if they could actually be a viable solution to the complaints and if they aren't, then we can move on. If they are then maybe someone in charge may look into it. You can't scream for change without showing that change can actually take place, especially in the parameters (what little we know) that the club may have. And one we know is that the parts have to fit without modding. Another is Hasbro's approval of any changes.

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-12-2018, 09:49 AM
I still would like someone with customizing and Photo Shop skills to try the ROC Flash gear as an alternative. If the chest piece and skirt piece work with the build, then it might be a better solution with that figure's helmet as well. The chest piece could be all gray with blue highlights/accents, the helmet could be repainted red with a paint applied in silver to the visor/goggles

so, I tried that flash chest piece on the torso that's being used and it kind of fit. It's awkward for any head to fit right though. The helmet is a tight fit on the BT head (if it's being used) and really loose on the 50th hawk. And i tried that chest piece with the hawk/SB combo and it looked better, but the hawk head dissapears into the flash chest piece. The flash skirt piece is attached to the flash torso. Just found out that the 25th hawk head fits this torso really well and can accomidate the SB helmet, too small for the flash helmet though.

Now, if you meant to use the whole flash torso, then your looking at a rebuild. And honestly, I really don't like the aesthetics of the flash torso. The chest piece isn't bad looking, but its just awkward with a different torso.

rjhiii@sover.net
04-12-2018, 10:01 AM
No I was only looking at the chestpiece and helmet possibly. I also have no problem with the ROC Flash Head. Not every head under a helmet has to be unmasked entirely...

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-12-2018, 10:09 AM
That chest piece with the SB helmet actually looks good together, and actually fits the BT torso better using the 25th hawk head, just tried it. Would like to see a photoshopped color picture with that vest and helmet on the club build to see if it aesthetically works.

leo@joebattlelines.com
04-12-2018, 10:58 AM
I see no problem with the build as is.

^^^^

THIS!

Using the Steel Brigade helmet is going to make Fast Draw look like a member of the Steel Brigade. That helmet is so stylized that you can't see it as anything else.

ChadExcitement@aol.com
04-12-2018, 11:08 AM
Using the Steel Brigade helmet is going to make Fast Draw look like a member of the Steel Brigade. That helmet is so stylized that you can't see it as anything else.

Blowtorch's helmet and mask are the exact same argument. For those of us that grew up in the 80's, Steel Brigade was a mail-in figure that hardly anyone owned whereas Blowtorch was a major character. I'm still on board for a helmet change regardless of which SB helmet is used.

autobotcitycomics@hotmail.com
04-12-2018, 11:27 AM
I think Maverick’s helmet would have been better IMO

iamcanadian@sasktel.net
04-12-2018, 11:31 AM
Using the Steel Brigade helmet is going to make Fast Draw look like a member of the Steel Brigade. That helmet is so stylized that you can't see it as anything else.

Sure, I agree, but the other argument is that other people only see missle launcher blowtorch. And blowtorch has been overly saturated for most fans and any parts reused is too many to them. The only way to make most fans agree is to retool the original FD backpack (I can't stand this one but it is what it is)and helmet, and that isn't gonna happen, and that still wouldn't stop the complaints, too many people have their own vision for Fast Draw. And I honestly don't see the club budging on this one. It's not like it's a simple paint change people are asking for here. I think he looks like a walking tank which suits me fine, but if a simple helmet/head change cools some jets, then I'm fine with it.

By the way, if that hose on the original isn't an air hose, then what the heck is it? Sure looks like an air hose to me. Makes sense, no? All the rocket exhaust.

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-12-2018, 11:43 AM
I don't mind the chest and torso as much as some others do but the head WITH the chest is just too much Blowtorch. Change the head to any other helmet and it'll be just fine.

biggs369@gmail.com
04-12-2018, 01:19 PM
Most of this figure looks really good, but the Blowtorch parts just ruins an otherwise great build. I'd love to see the helmet swapped out for a red Steel Brigade or Steel Brigade Delta helmet with silver visor. Another torso and some webgear would be very nice as well, but please, please consider at least changing the helmet.

JFRiley11@yahoo.com
04-12-2018, 04:33 PM
I am in agreement on a change of helmets. The SBD helmet speaks to me as a good choice. The Blowtorch helmet and face mask just doesn’t scream Fast Draw to me. Of course it’s whatever the Club can come up with, but I for sure think a change needs to be made. Remember, they are made to order so they can possibly get it changed pretty quick if they take heed of the community’s concerns.

skoor.cr@gmail.com
04-12-2018, 04:33 PM
I'm jumping on the bandwagon just change the helmet (head if need be to fit the helmet) and I'm good . It's changed just enough to look more like Fastdraw and less like Blowtorch and that's what I think everyone is asking for.

rjhiii@sover.net
04-12-2018, 05:19 PM
That chest piece with the SB helmet actually looks good together, and actually fits the BT torso better using the 25th hawk head, just tried it. Would like to see a photoshopped color picture with that vest and helmet on the club build to see if it aesthetically works.


Recolored Ian's photoshop with paint so please excuse the bad artistic rendition...

gpgreenoe@gmail.com
04-12-2018, 07:40 PM
Both Steel Brigade Delta and Sub Viper would make fantastic updates to Fast Draw in terms of using available tooling. This is one figure that would have REALLY benefited from a newly tooled helmet and could have been an INCREDIBLE figure.

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-13-2018, 08:22 AM
Yeah, with the schedule I don't think we can expect any changes to the chest or anything beyond the helmet. Even if we just get a separate helmet pack that would do. You're right about the upgrade packages.

kelty11@verizon.net
04-14-2018, 10:32 AM
In general I have no major issues with this figure, but I think a different helmet should be utilized. Otherwise he looks like an Extreme (pun intended) version of Blowtorch.

ATBotts78@gmail.com
04-15-2018, 10:20 AM
Initially I said use the Steel Brigade helmet, which I would still prefer to blowtorch’s helmet, but ALL OF THESE other suggestions would also be better than Blowtorch. Because right now there is too much Blowtorch on this figure. They listened about a different vest on Crosshair, hopefully they listen about this helmet too

ozcouple@live.com
04-15-2018, 09:36 PM
"Initially I said use the Steel Brigade helmet, which I would still prefer to blowtorch’s helmet, but ALL OF THESE other suggestions would also be better than Blowtorch. Because right now there is too much Blowtorch on this figure. They listened about a different vest on Crosshair, hopefully they listen about this helmet too."

^^^What he said. Please. :)

yacoub@gmail.com
04-16-2018, 08:37 PM
Agreed. There are several preferable alternative helmet options for Fast Draw. If it's not too late, I hope one of those alternatives can be used. Thanks.

skoor.cr@gmail.com
04-16-2018, 10:20 PM
New helmet please,please, please!!!!!!

j_yoders@hotmail.com
04-16-2018, 10:36 PM
Would love to see a mockup of any of the suggested new helmet designs.

krislee74@gmail.com
04-18-2018, 05:33 PM
I agree that the Steel Brigade helmet would be better.

charlesbarry1975@hotmail.com
04-21-2018, 11:23 AM
Too much Blowtorch & too much Metal Head. Colour scheme is great, but it looks too much like a repaint of Blowtorch.

biggs369@gmail.com
04-23-2018, 01:33 PM
Nothing wrong with the colours. They're pretty much spot on. It just screams "heavy weapons Blowtorch" sadly. Another helmet and some light blue webgear would pretty much perfect this figure.

skoor.cr@gmail.com
04-23-2018, 07:06 PM
I saw a podcast with the designer and he said that he couldn't get any heads to work with the steel brigade helmet, he was originally wanting to use the delta version, but i used my Blowtorch, 50th anniversary Hawk head and the steel brigade helmet and it works. I tried to send a pic of this but for some reson my pictures won't transfer. So come on club this is a simple change and it will make most of us extremely happy, please, please, please make this change. From every club member thank you if you do this