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Commander_Lane
08-18-2016, 03:08 PM
We are very excited to offer the fifth limited edition GIJCC Figure Subscription Service. This assortment contains a variety of fan requested characters from all eras of the 3 3/4-inch G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero series. It includes classic 80's, 90's, international, and a never before released character to add to your modern era action figure collection. Upon successful completion, you will also receive a BONUS mystery 13th carded action figure with the last shipment.

Each single carded action figure features the highly articulated modern era sculpts with weapons and accessories to accomplish any mission!

Here is the 8th figure preview:



http://www.gijoeclub.com/images/FSS5salvohasWEB.jpg
G.I. JOE ANTI-ARMOR TROOPER: SALVO
(Based on the classic 1990 action figure!)

Includes: removable helmet, rocket launcher with projectile, weapons case, pistol, and figure stand.

NOTE: All images are Photoshop representations, final product, accessories and/or colors may vary!

Arbrias@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:17 PM
I was really looking forward to this one. Huge disappointment on parts choice and pants colors (which I realize could be a problem with the photoshop and improve on the final version).

kaljzl0824@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 03:18 PM
Not a bad figure, but you guys need to change that font on his chest like big time. Why not use the same exact font style as before? It's an eyesore.

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:18 PM
Looks good, but was expecting Salvo to be on a larger body. I was hoping the Club would use 50th Bazooka 's torso & arms with 50th Leatherneck's legs.

jay.r.taylor@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:24 PM
This body is far, far too small. Salvo is supposed to be a big guy. Why in the world wouldn't you use this body?!?!
http://www.yojoe.com/action/13/roadblock24.shtml

That one would be perfect for Salvo. I'm almost always a glass half full kind of guy, and I've always been there to defend the club, but this figure is an unbelievable disappointment.

pyro671402@comcast.net
08-18-2016, 03:28 PM
I agree on both the pants color being "wrong" as well as the figure build should be better. I also am disappointed to see the horrid spring-loaded weapons. That's supposedly a selling point for kids, and kids aren't ordering the FSS sets...

axonrey@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:34 PM
Unbelievable disappointment were my exact words as well. This was a lynch pin of the FSS for me, and may have tanked it for me. This is a comprehensive failure.

jondelia82@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 03:39 PM
I don't think this figure is true to the original. He should be much larger. The 50th bazooka torso with Retaliation Roadblock legs would be a much better fit. Also, the bold print on the shirt looks too clean. This is a highly anticipated character and I think a change is in order.

Hall479@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:41 PM
Swing-and-a-miss. You could have used the entire Retaliation Roadblock build for this and it would have been perfect. Instead we get this bizarre Resolute build that's far too scrawny.

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:43 PM
Even in the DIC cartoon, he was a large guy. Had to be to carry all that ordnance.

flvt@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:45 PM
Totally agree... :(

kaljzl0824@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 03:50 PM
I really can't even look at this figure anymore. Scoop!! The spotlight is totally on you.

axonrey@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 03:51 PM
I guess that's what they meant by POC. I just can't understand why they would use such a small build. I'm infuriatingly stunned.

NS550@aol.com
08-18-2016, 04:05 PM
I was hoping for a bigger build, doesn't need to be leatherneck/Roadblock/Gung-ho big but something like the Benchpress mold would be good... Anyway, I also agree about the font, that looks like it belongs on an essay not a military shirt.

ozcouple@live.com
08-18-2016, 04:08 PM
Ultimate Roadblock torso/arms, easy win.

This build is a head scratcher...

leo@joebattlelines.com
08-18-2016, 04:08 PM
So, is there still time to completely scrap this design and go with something that more appropriately represents his appearances in all of the media? (comics, cartoon)

Even a Bazooka/Bench Press body with a Serpentor head would be a MASSIVE improvement.

Seriously GIJCC, think about starting all over on this one before you go to production. You'll make your customer base a LOT happier with their $25 figure purchase.

Thompson.hunter58@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 04:18 PM
Isn't he supposed to be big?

hobbiesandelectronics@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 04:24 PM
Very bad figure. anyone with paints and brushes can do this need not be too talented. you simply took parts of other figures without stopping to think whether this figure truly represents SALVO. if you do not have the tools or creativity to make a figure do not. With this offends only to members and the relationship quality with the price is not justified.

we support hasbro to renew the contract with funpublications. (I personally call several times a customer service line hasbro). We do not want compensation figures for free. we just want you to do your job well and respect us

bharrisfan@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 04:24 PM
Needs to be bigger! (Retaliation Roadblock style)
plus more vintage accurate font :)

edit: and those legs should be avoided in almost all circumstances!

madmac41@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 04:33 PM
It's really sad the the club feels that this version of Salvo is acceptable. Seriously use the Rockblock build. If not I will speak with my lack of financial support.

kwo_bubba@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 04:40 PM
Needs to be bigger. Was looking forward to this one. Hope the club will try to fix this.

kentacular@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 04:46 PM
Saw the notice that the Salvo preview was up and immediately headed over here to check it out. TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT. This was my top choice for this FSS and I'm really underwhelmed by how poorly he was planned. Too small, bad leg choice and wrong font on the shirt. And Salvo had one of the most recognizable weapons with his 5-missile launcher!!!! I'd say either make some improvements, or don't make him at all. I'd rather wait for a better representation than get what is on the first post of this thread.

hobbiesandelectronics@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 04:46 PM
you seek a better advice for designing the figures. this is really improvised

hobbiesandelectronics@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 04:49 PM
Saw the notice that the Salvo preview was up and immediately headed over here to check it out. TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT. This was my top choice for this FSS and I'm really underwhelmed by how poorly he was planned. Too small, bad leg choice and wrong font on the shirt. And Salvo had one of the most recognizable weapons with his 5-missile launcher!!!! I'd say either make some improvements, or don't make him at all. I'd rather wait for a better representation than get what is on the first post of this thread.

totally agree

scdenny74@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 05:04 PM
um, yea. he's not a good looking figure. why not utilize the chest from "The Rock"/Brawler? This character is such a larger figure and you guys have made him look like he's receiving cancer treatment.

morgardee@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 05:19 PM
Ouch. Club this is a HUGE let down. Salvo is suppose to be a big bulky guy. This looks more like his little brother trying to dress up in his clothes.

Seriously, this one is really bad.

I'd take this one back to the drawing board and do it over again.

ender098@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 05:21 PM
This it the figure I was looking forward to the most in this wave. Colors, gear and mold are ok, but I have to agree, this guy needs to be bigger. Like Retaliation Rock Body bigger.

jimsnow70@aol.com
08-18-2016, 05:29 PM
The TF Bazooka or Big Brawler body would've been more suitable for Salvo. I'm disappointed with him :(

Slamgod7140@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 05:32 PM
Scratching my head here. Agreed that he should be bigger. I'm in with the Bazooka body idea. Legs should be all together different IMO. Though, in all honesty, I cant figure a leg combo that would fit. That font has to go too. Totally agree with that!! 1st disappointment for me. Hope they can right this wrong.

huntersabin@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 05:35 PM
What a bummer. Pushing into my second year in the club with this being my first Sub; I don't think I'm going to pull the proverbial trigger on these figures. This representation of Salvo is a let down, as several of the previous image releases have been. Seems the option for this Joe fan wil be to watch eBay, sigh, and fingers crossed for any extra figures in the club store.

garbognar@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 05:37 PM
The before picture from an "I was a 90 pound weakling before I found Weight Gain 2000!" ad.
This one is disappointing across the board. The body is way too scrawny, the font is too plain and the accessory set is boring. This one could really use a complete overhaul from the ground up. Except the helmet, that works pretty well. Maybe the Roadblock tooling is tied up?

csi_kincaid@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 05:44 PM
Hard to talk about "MIGHT" when he looks like his sister could whoop him. This is such a terrible build. He was a favorite as a kid, but this just makes me want to scream

pyro671402@comcast.net
08-18-2016, 05:45 PM
I get a Dale Gribble vibe from this pic.

gpgreenoe@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 05:50 PM
Salvo really was the one character I was looking forward to the most. Although I'm sure the thought was to go in a little bit of a different direction, I'm not sure it ended up serving the character well. I truly hope there is time to change it, as I really do think this is a disservice to the character and the FSS as a whole. It's hard to give criticism to the hand that feeds you, so to speak, as we are absolutely grateful of the hard work and long hours you guys pour into this, especially now that the club has gotten new life, so to speak. But please consider, if it's within means, to change Salvo to a beefier build. Retaliation Road Block is an great example that would be perfect as is.

williamson508@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 05:54 PM
Really a let down here. I would have accepted any body that was bigger. Just a giant miss here.

charles.phillips@penske.com
08-18-2016, 06:07 PM
By far the most disappointing figure the club has produced. Spell might "mite" because he is tiny. I really don't understand how anyone who claims to be a Joe fan would look at this and give approval. Better to not do this figure than to butcher it. Stunningly bad. I'm usually a big time club supporter...but this is just terrible.

axonrey@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 06:15 PM
That's to the point, as well. Not only is he not big, but I'm not sure they could have made him smaller and still be in scale. Good news is membership seems to be relatively unified in disdain for this figure. Maybe that'll help make something happen.

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 06:21 PM
Well this is ... not what I was expecting/hoping for. I was really looking forward to getting this figure.
I do have a couple positive things to say.
Pros:
Like the helmet used.
The deco is clearly based on the original figure, not a POC reimagining as I feared.
Weapons are okay substitutes if the originals aren't available. I can always get a vintage rocket launcher for him to hold if I want to, that's an easy fix.

Cons:
What everyone else said.

Usually us Joe fans are pretty hard to please because everyone wants different things. In this case it seems pretty overwhelming that we agree Salvo needs a bigger body, like the Retaliation Ultimate Roadblock. Please take the time to fix this one before you start production. There is no Dec. 31 deadline anymore.

erik.yurkovich@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 06:21 PM
Hey guys I love your figures but this one really does miss the mark as a lot of people are saying on Facebook. Any chance to change the builder this figure to ROC Roadblock or something a little bit bigger ? I just figured I'd try .

science_mrk@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 08:28 PM
Unfortunately, I am with everyone else on this one. Salvo is NOT good by any perception. Please try and fix this one before production otherwise he is simply a waste in the set and I for one will just sell him. The club has given us some really great figures please deliver on this one too.

hplc8250@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 08:32 PM
If Salvo is a expert with the TOW/Dragon, I would rather his shirt said "death by wire." It was our battle cry when I was in the service.

Josiahdongraham@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 08:33 PM
I was really looking forward to salvo, but unfortunately this figure REALLY misses the mark. For the most part I can understand and over look a lot of problems with some of the clubs figures, but this is really off. Retaliation Roadblock build would have been sooo much better. :(

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 08:40 PM
Please Club , as you did with Hit & Run in FSS 3.0. listen to our thoughts. Please change the build on this figure to make him larger. A similar build to Tiger Force Big Brawler of the 2015 con set would even be better.

Hall479@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 08:41 PM
Salvo was one of the heavy hitters of the 5.0 line-up and this is just misses every conceivable mark. Please change this. I don't think I'm in the minority when I say I'm okay with a production delay as long as the product delivers in the end.

csi_kincaid@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 08:44 PM
I, too, would gladly accept a delay in production to fix this mess.

jrgrfg@aol.com
08-18-2016, 09:05 PM
Same here! He needs to have a much bigger body. I like everything else so far.

NS550@aol.com
08-18-2016, 09:25 PM
Forgot about Big Brawler, that build makes total sense for Salvo, good call! Think it fits a bit better than roadblock but honestly either one would be better than this current concept.

troynos@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 09:26 PM
I can normally find something good with every figure and am very rarely disappointed. I am disappointed big time with this one. That body is completely wrong. It's too small. Salvo is supposed to be a big dude. The helmet is fine, the legs are fine, everything is fine except for the chest and arms.

And it's so bad that it brings the entire figure down.

That needs to be changed out. This is a huge disappointment and not a good figure at all.

justin.stumvoll@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 10:14 PM
I am begging you please change this figure. Members and collectors all over the forums are feeling disgruntled about this. I mean no disrespect by this, but if you would be willing to change the build on this figure it would go along way with the community and their relationship with you. I used Bazookas upper torso and Ultimate Roadblock's lower legs in a custom for Bazooka and it looked incredible. If you use that build out with Serpentor's head you could make a killer figure and win a lot of people over. Please reconsider. Please!

bassistcarlos@sbcglobal.net
08-18-2016, 10:28 PM
The reaction seems pretty unanimous. I've been checking out some of the customs online, and so far, I like the use of the fatigues version of ROC Heavy Duty.

j_yoders@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 10:33 PM
Can't be bothered to care about the build of this one when that missile launcher should have three more launching pods! You can't have a "salvo" of one!

Matthew.stoops@wmich.edu
08-18-2016, 10:33 PM
Just made the Unofficial Poll, go here (http://www.gijoeclub.com/forums/showthread.php?1118-(Unofficial)-Change-Salvo-Poll) to check it out.

raginspoon@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 10:36 PM
I've tried not to say anything about this fss. I understand you can't create all new parts and make new tooling for every figure. Most of the figures shown have looked okay at best but this Salvo shown is a joke. You have an obvious choice to use the ultimate roadblock body and you use this weird build making Salvo entirely too small.

Just for your reference I am a paying customers I subscribed into 3 of the 4 fss, skipping the last one for the same reason I'm thinking about skipping this one. Poor parts choices and the attitude of this is good enough.

The one thing I can say you almost always get correct is paint applications and deco. So good job to whomever does that.

I understand it's not feasible use the general publics opinion but if you start using a third party perspective on these builds from people who know how every character and how every modern figure works, it would go a long way. You have great people who would be willing to help that you already use such as Boss Fight Studios or the guy you use for your customs classes John Russell.

graysoniank@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 10:42 PM
There were so many possible combinations available. The fact that so many fans out there have made customs which surpass this FSS Salvo shows how little attention is paid to what's out there. Come on! It's not that hard to see what could be done if you just looked and listened to the fans. We are, after all the only ones paying for these figures.

bbcauld@att.net
08-18-2016, 10:45 PM
I believe the reason the Club didn't use the Roadblock body is because it is currently being used by Hasbro for the Heavy Duty figure in the 50th line.

jay.r.taylor@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 10:54 PM
I believe the reason the Club didn't use the Roadblock body is because it is currently being used by Hasbro for the Heavy Duty figure in the 50th line.

Gaucho uses some of the same pieces.

Even if the Roadblock parts are unavailable, Bazooka or Rise of Cobra Heavy Duty parts would work better.

Hall479@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 11:00 PM
Then don't make the figure until the mold IS available. The Club has 2 more FSS's, Con Sets, and Sub freebies to put him in. That excuse really doesn't hold water.

bbcauld@att.net
08-18-2016, 11:02 PM
Gaucho uses some of the same pieces.

Even if the Roadblock parts are unavailable, Bazooka or Rise of Cobra Heavy Duty parts would work better.

I agree Bazooka would work great too and that ROC HD.

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 11:05 PM
Or 2015 Tiger Force Big Brawler.

gi_new51@hotmail.com
08-18-2016, 11:11 PM
Salvo is supposed to be a big guy.

Not really. He's got big arms, but that's it. He's lean and wears a tight shirt so he has a lot of muscle definition, but he's not husky or bulky like the Benchpress or Roadblock torsos. The torso for his vintage figure is no bigger than any other 1990 figure. His card art also shows his torso as fairly thin. In DIC, he's portrayed with the same build as every other Joe on screen, again apart from the ripped arms.

The only two issues I have with this figure is the font on the shirt and the thin arms. He really needs bigger arms (which might help him look slightly bigger overall). And the classic font is a must have. That typed font does not look right at all. The torso is not perfect by any stretch, but the big bulky torsos are just as bad in the opposite direction. I personally would like to see what Road Pig's torso looks like with a shirt painted on.

drpornstar@gmail.com
08-18-2016, 11:28 PM
Salvo is the first time I have felt a FSS build has been completely off mark. I have been happy with most of the offerings the club has made in the past. Often there are minor issues that are unavoidable, as it's impossible to make everyone happy.
Not this time.

The issue is that the buck is wrong. A correct buck is in current circulation. There is no reason for him to a scrawny dude when he was always a brawny one. This has nothing to do with specific sculpt issues of things that can't be made due to costs. This can be easily made better by changing to the Movie Roadblock buck, the 50th Bazooka buck, or better still, the Benchpress buck.

Please hear the community on this one.
Make Salvo a big guy again. It will make us all happy and give us renewed faith in the club.

Thank you.

kaljzl0824@yahoo.com
08-18-2016, 11:30 PM
The Tiger Force Brawler body would be perfect here. And the proper font.

gi_new51@hotmail.com
08-19-2016, 12:02 AM
Not really. He's got big arms, but that's it. He's lean and wears a tight shirt so he has a lot of muscle definition, but he's not husky or bulky like the Benchpress or Roadblock torsos. The torso for his vintage figure is no bigger than any other 1990 figure. His card art also shows his torso as fairly thin. In DIC, he's portrayed with the same build as every other Joe on screen, again apart from the ripped arms.

The only two issues I have with this figure is the font on the shirt and the thin arms. He really needs bigger arms (which might help him look slightly bigger overall). And the classic font is a must have. That typed font does not look right at all. The torso is not perfect by any stretch, but the big bulky torsos are just as bad in the opposite direction. I personally would like to see what Road Pig's torso looks like with a shirt painted on.

This is what the same build looks like with the larger arms that I would like to see used.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo322/capt_falcone/try2_1.jpg

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-19-2016, 03:28 AM
No your wrong. He should look like this. Thanks to the guy who made the pic.
http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss267/steve2477/Randon%20Pics/Salvo_zps385gnjte.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/steve2477/media/Randon%20Pics/Salvo_zps385gnjte.jpg.html)

leo@joebattlelines.com
08-19-2016, 05:18 AM
http://www.joebattlelines.com/images/reviews/arah/1990/salvo/salvocomic114.jpg

If you go by the Marvel Comics series, he's actually a pretty bulky guy.

http://www.joebattlelines.com/images/reviews/arah/1990/salvo/salvodicvolcania2.jpg

Even DiC for all of its issues shows him as having more mass.

I don't know what reference material was used by the designer of this figure but I've never seen Salvo portrayed as having this slight of a build ANYWHERE.

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-19-2016, 06:28 AM
Great reference pics. He was a large guy in the Marvel comics and DIC cartoon. The bullets on his legs are for the machine gun on his Mine Layer. But that doesn't need to be on this figure. look at the card art, which will probably get a change on the FSS one.

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 07:06 AM
I believe the reason the Club didn't use the Roadblock body is because it is currently being used by Hasbro for the Heavy Duty figure in the 50th line.

This is pure speculation. Maybe that is the case, but Darklon uses the same torso as Snake Eyes. Ambush uses Falcon's torso and Raptor has Falcon's legs. There are probably other shared parts too. So why can't they use the same body as Heavy Duty? If this is indeed the problem, they should wait until Hasbro is done with the mold and they make the figures. We don't have the same deadline anymore, they could extend this to 2017 if necessary (every FSS is delayed anyway) to get it right.

NS550@aol.com
08-19-2016, 07:08 AM
Found a lot of custom Salvo pics using the Benchpress body and they look fantastic, I really hope we get to see that version of salvo in the end!

jsandy@rochester.rr.com
08-19-2016, 07:54 AM
Disappointing line up.I would Listen to the customers club.I think Ill buy the one or 2 figures i like on e bay.Very lack luster.

axonrey@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 08:06 AM
I feel like everyone who subscribes to the FSS accepts that not every figure will appeal to their tastes and sometimes you eat the cost of that because we respect the fact that different things appeal to different collectors. I, for instance, find no appeal in the BC Viper or Gaucho, but understand that some of us do, and that's fine. On the same note, I like Ninja Force, and realize many don't, and that Nunchuk was a complete throwaway to them. Further, no every design can be perfect, not every part choice is spot on, and not everything can have new tooling. I think we all accept that give and take of the FSS.

But this representation so thoroughly transcends these concessions, that I personally find it unacceptable. I hate to say that, as it's only fair to assume the Club put time into this, and believe it to be a just offering. So, in my case, it's no exaggeration when I say if I ultimately don't sub, this figure will be the reason for it. Even owning this, I would not feel as though I had a Salvo in my collection. As far as toy collecting goes, this offering depresses me, and my mind cannot comprehend the rationalization behind this design.

kelty11@verizon.net
08-19-2016, 09:03 AM
This is a total disappointment! I was really looking forward to this figure. The deco and accessories are thankfully true to the original design. And as someone else mentioned I can easily buy a vintage rocket launcher and mine dispenser on ebay. However, the body needs to be swapped out for a better one - maybe Bazooka or Big Brawler. It's interesting that one of these was not chosen as the club utilized them for the 2015 Convention set.

I hope the club seriously reconsiders the design for this figure. Afterall they no longer have the Dec 31st deadline looming over their heads.

mmullin2@chw.edu
08-19-2016, 09:48 AM
if they keep with this body for him, his shirt should itty bitty teeny weenie. Give us the Salvo we all know how he should be done. Please fix!!!!!!!!!!

seanmjordan@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 10:07 AM
I'm afraid I have to express my disappointment too. Was waiting to see Salvo and Scoop before I placed my order for FSS5 and my forgiveness is used up already on Gaucho. I'm now on the fence about ordering at all.

For the price of these figures (especially for those of us ordering Internationally) I really expect more.

I hope there's time to change Salvo's build as I really do like a lot of the others pictured.

On the plus side though I must say his colour scheme is great. Just would like to see a bigger build as many others have mentioned.

Thanks for listening Club, I hope you'll address this issue that most of the membership seems pretty passionate about.

jagermonster72@sky.com
08-19-2016, 10:08 AM
my personal plea to the club is that , if you have to use this build , please replace the yellow parts on his legs/holster with gold , the yellow makes him look like a cheap funskool version and is not true to the character or design . the head and helmet look great , the other colours look about right , even the accessories are fine , I do however agree that he should be bulkier and question if the designer of this current figure has ever seen the original Salvo ?

fostereben@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 10:16 AM
one of the figures i was most looking forward to has become the least figure i look forward to. that is a terrible looking figure.

dgarlit@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 10:31 AM
I agree with everyone else, this version just isn't acceptable. I'd rather them not even do Salvo if this what they are going to run with. This is way too small and needs to be changed.

pedro1861@yahoo.com
08-19-2016, 11:08 AM
This is a slap in the face of every collector who is a member of the club. Everyone was looking forward for ths one, and it turned into a huge disappointment. Since the club is using parts already used by other figures, why not the torso by billy, Retaliation's Roadblock ultimate arms and legs and a new head?

Thompson.hunter58@yahoo.com
08-19-2016, 11:36 AM
i've tried not to say anything about this fss. I understand you can't create all new parts and make new tooling for every figure. Most of the figures shown have looked okay at best but this salvo shown is a joke. You have an obvious choice to use the ultimate roadblock body and you use this weird build making salvo entirely too small.

Just for your reference i am a paying customers i subscribed into 3 of the 4 fss, skipping the last one for the same reason i'm thinking about skipping this one. Poor parts choices and the attitude of this is good enough.

The one thing i can say you almost always get correct is paint applications and deco. So good job to whomever does that.

I understand it's not feasible use the general publics opinion but if you start using a third party perspective on these builds from people who know how every character and how every modern figure works, it would go a long way. You have great people who would be willing to help that you already use such as boss fight studios or the guy you use for your customs classes john russell.


yess!! Amen!!!

NS550@aol.com
08-19-2016, 01:48 PM
I hope it's ok to post this in this particular thread, I wanted to share someone's custom Salvo i found on JoeCustoms.com, moderators if you feel like it should go in it's own thread on the customs forum please add a link here as it is related to the topic. Thank you!

http://www.joecustoms.com/customs/customs_specific_item.php?kind=figure&id=10162

I think this is a perfect representation of what Salvo should look like, check out the link and let me know what you guys think!

dmathiass@yahoo.com.br
08-19-2016, 02:35 PM
You have promised us a PoC style figure and gave us this?!?! A PoC style figure is not a skinny guy with a "lollipop-launcher" (did not want to use a sexual reference). He should have elements that make the link between vintage and a modern and more realistic soldier. If you guys wanted a true vintage recreation, a more athletic build was required and definitely NO "lollipop-launcher"!!! Make a retooling of the M202 FLASH that the weapon is based on without the "lollipop" or a total new weapon for the quintuple-launcher that the vintage uses. Could use other anti-armor weapon already available for the figure. Could put that mines and the backpack associated with them (Firefly PoC, Elite Horsemen 50th or Firefly 50th). Do not put on the figure accessories that it cannot carry or attach on the figure, like a sidearm or knife without a holster or sheath. Give him a open vest or mole (like Gung Ho's vest) to give him a more a soldier look without loosing his t-shirt mote, although Shipwreck 50th does have a nice withe shirt with the word NAVY on it under his vest. Did not like the helmet, but I can't imagine any other existing one to use. The head sculpt is hidden in the helmet, so nothing to say about it for now.

abesapien2@comcast.net
08-19-2016, 02:56 PM
Wasted opportunity... please scrap it and start over.

scott.jennings@yahoo.com
08-19-2016, 03:21 PM
Please look at redoing this figure. I haven't seen the community agree this much in awhile. This was one of the most anticipated figures and it is very disappointing.

autumnmourning@hotmail.com
08-19-2016, 05:14 PM
With respect, this build on Salvo is genuinely not among your best work, enough to the extent I felt it worth my time to express it here. This is also on behalf of other collector friends of mine who were eagerly anticipating Salvo as an inclusion in this year's subscription service and were quite disappointed by the reveal. Salvo is a much beefier, bulkier character and would benefit more from something like a Retaliation-era Roadblock body. Such a build is far more consistent with the character.

Today's reveal of Scoop shows very well the professional quality of what Fun Publications is capable. The current parts selection for Salvo, however, does not meet that standard.

sheila4420@hotmail.com
08-19-2016, 06:58 PM
I gotta say, there's a few things I would've done differently here. The size is a bit small for a guy that carries anti-armor weapons, the pant color looks a bit too bright, and I'm disappointed that he didint get the 5-shot missile launcher and that big mine-throwing weapon that he had with the original. I guess they can't retool those? Nonetheless, am looking forward to having this figure.

MajorGibroni@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 06:59 PM
Looks terrible. I would expect a character with that slogan on their chest to have some upper body strength. There's nothing mighty about this puny figure.

terran_brackiatt@yahoo.com
08-19-2016, 07:38 PM
when i originally saw that this was going to be a PoC build, i was eagerly anticipating the reveal.

now all i see are those awful Resolute legs, that never really seemed to look right trying to get those figures to stand on their own (without the help of a figure stand)

in the vein of offering up better parts recipes, here's my suggestion:

Benchpress torso and upper arms
battle-kata Roadblock forearms and articulated hands
Hit & Run (FSS 3.0 / 50th) Head (there is no molded hair, and it looks good with the neck length)
50th Gung-Ho Legs (plus pistol and knife)

[EDIT: and my dream] accessories:
Kwinn backpack straps
retaliation pit trooper backpack (plus the 4 pistols, gas mask, mines, and shovel)
retaliation Flint grenade Launcher
ultimate roadblock .50 cal machine gun (the 4 piece one, so it could be creatively stowed in the backpack)
2 ammo belts (one for the gun, one wrapped around his chest like FSS 3.0 Spearhead had)
25th SNake Eyes TNT satchel (also used as a medical satchel on other figures)

WE ALL KNOW, the original 5 slot missile launcher won't work on the modern era figures, but there's no way a guy named SALVO should ever carry a single slot missile launcher.... he's the big guy who loves to hear the words "covering fire!" and then reigns down all his ammo on the enemy. his OTHER original weapons were the combo grenade / mine launcher. so it makes sense for him to carry around a multiple shot grenade launcher, and more grenades on his leg (like Gung-Ho) it also makes sense for him to carry around mines, and a shovel to bury them. it also makes sense for him to carry around a heavy machine gun for his backup weapon, and also with the name SALVO, why not some extra pistols as well... just in case the enemy is lucky and foolish enough to get close...

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 07:50 PM
Baconnaire, I get what you're trying to do, we all want to give feedback to help Make Salvo better. But your suggestion is so over the top greedy that I don't think it's helping our cause. Aside from changing the figure build you are asking them to add straps, a backpack, 4 pistols, mines, gas mask, shovels, a grenade launcher, a 4 part machine gun, ammo belts, and a satchel?! All those accessories that were not originally budgeted for would cost so much extra it would never work. If you want that much gear on a figure you are going to equip him yourself after you get it. I think we need to be realistic in what we are asking for to get anything done. Let's just keep the accessories the same and try to convince them to change out the body for a bigger muscular body like Retaliation Roadblock or ROC Benchpress.

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-19-2016, 08:29 PM
Yes. I agree exactly. Keep accessories the same just use any large male figure mold that is available at this point from Hasbro. 25th Bazooka, Roc Heavy Duty, Roc Bench Press, Ret Ultimate Roadblock or 2015 Tiger Force Big Brawler. Even Resolute Roadblock or 50th Gung Ho bodies would be better than the small stature he is using at the moment.

terran_brackiatt@yahoo.com
08-19-2016, 10:08 PM
i concede the over the top greedy part on the accessories... and i'll prolly spend the extra money to add them myself later on... however, i'd like the parts recipe i suggested to be seriously considered, for the same reason everybody doesn't care about the Gaucho reveal... straight up repaints feel like a ripoff... and the serpentor head looks like crap on the both the retaliation roadblock torso's (battle-kata/ultimate torso which was also used for 50th Leatherneck and FSS Repeater, and the tanktop torso), and also looks like crap on the benchpress torso. The Hit and Run head has no hair. the hair was painted on. and the head fits better on those large torsos.

i also can't stand Benchpress forearms and hands, as those hands can't hold most of the regular Joe weapons. also, the afore photographed benchpress torso with ultimate roadblock legs looks wrong, like one of those funny mirrors at a carnival. the legs are too long for the torso, whereas the slightly shorter 50th Gun-Ho legs are a better proportioned match.

(i DO want to say thank you for taking the time to assemble that figure for the shot, and for photographing it and posting it for the club and others to see. It gives a great starting point to the club on what we feel a Salvo figure should like like. I might not agree with every detail, but then again, i don't think i've ever agreed with you all on every detail of anything. i know i come across rather brazen at times... i'm just passionate about my Joes. i just want what you all want: good GI Joe figures!)

heck, maybe i should just commission a really good customizer to make me the Salvo i asked for, sans accessories, since i can't crack a torso or paint a head to save my life. i'm very good at ripping arms in half, though... just can't reattach the pins to the forearms afterwards to be able to plug the forearms back into the biceps... oh well.

look, i want a good salvo, too... but even a half-###ed bulkier salvo is as bad as a half-###ed puny salvo, in my opinion. i mean no disrespect to the club. the club has put out some awesome figures over the course of the FSS, especially considering their budget, and parts resources. but to be honest with you, when it comes to Salvo, i'd rather he be done right, or not done at all. and i'd also gladly give up the 13th mystery figure if it meant Salvo was done perfectly with accessories that were worthy of his name.

Salvo was really the biggest incentive i had for subbing this time around. there are a lot of solid reveals so far, but Salvo is the make it or break it figure for me. i'd rather give my money to the club, but if Salvo doesn't cut it for me, (at least the figure recipe, i typically customize the accessory loadouts anyway) i'll simply buy the other 2-3 figures i'd like off of ebay instead of subbing. on the other hand, if the club decides to hold Salvo back another year to get him perfect, i'd respect that a helluva lot more and sub for the other good figures on principle

PS: the retaliation pit trooper backpack came with those 4 pistols, gas mask, shovel, and 2 mines. and the figure also came with a cape, a second head, an assault rifle, a grenade launcher (single shot), and webgear, including a double sheath containing 2 knives. YES, i realize i basically asked for an ULTIMATE Salvo, considering all the accessories i asked for. i don't need the club to supply all of them, i'm just hoping for some of the harder to get ones, like Kwinn backpack straps. i'm not trying to be greedy, i'm just daydreaming out loud...

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
08-19-2016, 10:49 PM
Baconnaire, thanks for the response and for clarifying some of your thoughts. I hope there was no offense taken by my comment earlier. We are on the same team here. I just don't want us fans to appear too difficult to please or else the club won't even try to please us. I'm just trying to get one thing fixed right now, and like you I will probably change some gear later. What I can't fix myself is the skinny torso and arms and I would be happier with just about any of the alternative suggested so far.

terran_brackiatt@yahoo.com
08-20-2016, 02:32 AM
no offense taken.... especially because you're right. sometimes my passion boils over. this time i went straight to my wish list instead of only feedback on the reveal. i wish i could afford to support the club more. they've given us some really great figures over the years, both in the conventions and the FSS. given a choice between a rushed Salvo by Hasbro, or a club issued Salvo... the decision is clearly in the club's favor, based on previous offerings and the 2016 lineups.

i breathed a sigh of relief when the announcement came down that the club wasn't going anywhere for the next few years. then the announcement that Salvo is in FSS 5.0. with the club's track record, i think we all expected one of the most awesome figures possible. i think i personally took it for granted that all reveals were going to blow my mind, and simply forgot that club is run by people too.

the club has changed figure designs in the past, to please us, the difficult fans (i'm not trying to be so difficult, honestly!) with Hit & Run web gear, to Spearhead's colours... You're right Jfaria, i over-reacted. i have no doubts, now, that after the other 3 reveals come down, the club will probably redesign Salvo due to the long feedback thread... Thank you for keeping a level head, and for letting me vent some steam, and for seeing through that steam. we are on the same team. and truth be told, i would probably be pleasantly surprised with what the club can come up with a bulkier Salvo.

i was amazed at how battle-kata roadblaock, 50th leatherneck, and repeater are all basically the same figure, but standing up next to each other, are completely different, due to the colours, head, and accessories. Maybe Salvo will become the fourth amazingly different figure using the same "base" of a body

pistolcoulson@hotmail.com
08-20-2016, 05:02 AM
I have been looking forward to this figure for a long time now and could not believe it when I saw this mock up. Please use a larger body for this figure. Colors, font, helmet will work just fine but this doesn't even come close to resembling old school Salvo.

portelli21@gmail.com
08-20-2016, 05:55 AM
This is right in line with the originally shown version of Hit & Run from 2 years ago as well as the terrible choice to use purple and gold Night Creeper Leader. Let's see if they care about what the people who are paying for their mostly sub par offerings want and make a change to Salvo.

NS550@aol.com
08-20-2016, 07:57 AM
Are we going to get a look at the final version of this and other figures before the subscription deadline? I can only assume if there is no other posts about it that this first concept is what is going to be used.

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-20-2016, 10:19 AM
I'm surprised the Club hasn't commented on all the negative feedback about the dislike for Salvo.

kelty11@verizon.net
08-20-2016, 10:33 AM
I would suggest the club remove this figure from the lineup, retool him and make him the 2017 club membership figure. As a replacement the club could give an Ultimate Cobra Commander repainted as Red Laser, SAF Blades or something.

jmonahan78@hotmail.com
08-20-2016, 11:39 AM
Ultimate Roadblock torso/arms, easy win.

This build is a head scratcher...

Smh! I agree 100%. Ultimate Roadblock is the perfect body for Salvo. This figure is a huge disappointment. I don't think I will be subscribing to FSS 5.0 this year.

dgarlit@gmail.com
08-20-2016, 12:34 PM
Surprised we haven't heard anything about this yet. Agree that Ultimate Roadblock would be a pretty easy solution for this (if available). Not sure how folks feel about the rocket launcher but I'm not a fan of that either.

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
08-20-2016, 12:42 PM
I would suggest the club remove this figure from the lineup, retool him and make him the 2017 club membership figure. As a replacement the club could give an Ultimate Cobra Commander repainted as Red Laser, SAF Blades or something.

Replacement with another figure at this point would require Hasbro to approve the character choice, as well as approval of the new figure design. If that has to happen hopefully they can just get approval for a new design of Salvo. The volume and emotion of the response to this reveal tells me a lot of people were really looking forward to getting a Salvo figure in this wave.

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
08-20-2016, 12:49 PM
Surprised we haven't heard anything about this yet. Agree that Ultimate Roadblock would be a pretty easy solution for this (if available). Not sure how folks feel about the rocket launcher but I'm not a fan of that either.

I'm hoping the silence means the club has heard us, and is seeing what they can do about it. If there is a redesign they have to wait for approval from Hasbro before showing it, and I would like to believe that is what the club is doing.
As for the rocket launcher, I don't think anyone really loves it, but to me it is an acceptable weapon (I can't expect every mold from 1990 to still be around). Anyway, switching weapons later is a minor thing compared to the rest of the figure build.

NS550@aol.com
08-20-2016, 05:57 PM
I'm hoping the silence means the club has heard us, and is seeing what they can do about it. If there is a redesign they have to wait for approval from Hasbro before showing it, and I would like to believe that is what the club is doing.
As for the rocket launcher, I don't think anyone really loves it, but to me it is an acceptable weapon (I can't expect every mold from 1990 to still be around). Anyway, switching weapons later is a minor thing compared to the rest of the figure build.

I hope this is the case, the club has listened in the past and I think this figure has such a high number of similar comments it wouldn't make sense to ignore it.

axonrey@gmail.com
08-20-2016, 07:07 PM
Hit n run was such a small change by comparison. We're asking for a complete rebuild. They might not be able to even if they wanted. Based on the Xamot tooling they told us about, it does seem that production hasn't started and it is possible to borrow tools from other factories, so maybe we'll get lucky

NS550@aol.com
08-20-2016, 07:51 PM
Hit n run was such a small change by comparison. We're asking for a complete rebuild. They might not be able to even if they wanted. Based on the Xamot tooling they told us about, it does seem that production hasn't started and it is possible to borrow tools from other factories, so maybe we'll get lucky

I may be wrong but I believe they have said in the past for the FSS that production doesn't start until after the subscription deadline so they know how many orders are in. Built to order I believe is the term, however you may also be correct that they are unable to change the mold, I don't know if that is the case but it has been pointed out as a possibility before. I am hoping, like many other members I'm sure, that it is possible to change and that the club is doing everything it can do push for these alterations.

perrych17@gmail.com
08-20-2016, 08:00 PM
I just can't believe someone didn't say, "Isn't he suppose to be a big guy?" Even the print on the shirt is compromised a little due to how small the chest is. I am fine with revisions of figures, particularly less known like Salvo, but some characteristics should carry over such as their relative size.

kelty11@verizon.net
08-21-2016, 11:15 AM
As for the rocket launcher, I don't think anyone really loves it, but to me it is an acceptable weapon (I can't expect every mold from 1990 to still be around). Anyway, switching weapons later is a minor thing compared to the rest of the figure build.

You can obtain a loose 1990 Salvo on ebay for about $10-$15 or purchase the accessories separately. That's what I plan to do.

pyro671402@comcast.net
08-22-2016, 11:40 AM
Yes, I am nowhere near having an issue with his weaponry, as the mine/machine gun was a bit out there. For that matter, the original rocket launcher was a bit over-the-top as well. I despise spring-loaded stuff, but this would still do. I can always change it out with the Duke missile launcher anyway, something I was already going to do to make my own Salvo, "one day".

pyro671402@comcast.net
08-22-2016, 03:06 PM
Per the GI Joe Collector's Club on Facebook: "Hi guys. We hear you and are working on another approach to the SALVO build. Hang tight"

morgardee@hotmail.com
08-22-2016, 03:52 PM
Per the GI Joe Collector's Club on Facebook: "Hi guys. We hear you and are working on another approach to the SALVO build. Hang tight"

Why wouldn't they post that here, on their own forums?

steve.2477@hotmail.com
08-22-2016, 04:17 PM
I saw that on Facebook. Makes me very happy. Thanks for listening to our feedback. Hoping maybe the new build will get posted after the 12th reveal.

jared.vitosh@gmail.com
08-22-2016, 04:26 PM
Thank you for listening GIJCC! I know we are a difficult bunch to please sometimes, but I think everyone came together on this one.

I hope we will get a new Salvo reveal after the last two are shown and before the order deadline.

NS550@aol.com
08-22-2016, 07:41 PM
Can't wait to see the final concept!

kelty11@verizon.net
08-23-2016, 11:14 AM
Awesome. Thanks for listening to member feedback.

crj9driver@gmail.com
08-24-2016, 05:18 AM
Not only do I hope to see a bigger torso, but a change of legs too.

jimsnow70@aol.com
08-24-2016, 04:05 PM
Has there been anything posted on the Club Facebook or Twitter account regarding the change in build for Salvo?

c.j.lloyd1@juno.com
08-24-2016, 04:46 PM
Thank you for listening to member feedback.

Thompson.hunter58@yahoo.com
08-24-2016, 05:23 PM
Yes, I don't remember the exact words but something to the effect of "we hear you on th salvo build, hang tight" on a Facebook comment

funpubincadmin
08-24-2016, 06:04 PM
Please note that we are adding more details to the August 2016 updates thread here...
http://www.gijoeclub.com/forums/showthread.php?1097-Ongoing-updates-August-2016/ (http://www.gijoeclub.com/forums/showthread.php?1097-Ongoing-updates-August-2016/page4)